Comments on: The Party’s Over http://www.frumpgazette.com/2009/11/22/the-partys-over/ All the news that's fit to frump about. Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:36:04 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Frumpzilla http://www.frumpgazette.com/2009/11/22/the-partys-over/comment-page-1/#comment-1293 Frumpzilla Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:16:13 +0000 http://www.frumpgazette.com/?p=1339#comment-1293 p { margin: 0; }<br />Delete<br /><br /> p { margin: 0; }
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]]> By: Frumpzilla http://www.frumpgazette.com/2009/11/22/the-partys-over/comment-page-1/#comment-912 Frumpzilla Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:38:05 +0000 http://www.frumpgazette.com/?p=1339#comment-912 p { margin: 0; }<br />And I feel sorry for you, John, because you are easily manipulated by professional fearmongers. Just out of curiosity, what's your definition of \"socialism?\" p { margin: 0; }
And I feel sorry for you, John, because you are easily manipulated by professional fearmongers. Just out of curiosity, what's your definition of \”socialism?\”

]]> By: bob http://www.frumpgazette.com/2009/11/22/the-partys-over/comment-page-1/#comment-911 bob Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:53:16 +0000 http://www.frumpgazette.com/?p=1339#comment-911 There is truth to what you say. I just see the whole cons mvmt as basically being pretty unstable right now. By that I mean, there's a leadership vacuum (Beck?!?!) and a methods vacuum, and everybody's scrambling and jockeying to figure out how to create a consensus conservatism that will is politically effective. It will stabilize soon enough though ... again, ugh. I don't think the TP are quite as 'controlled' as you say in your comment, but I think it is all moving in that top-down direction. There are certainly enough experiments with how to harness the energy. Its fire though, all the pols are being forced to jump on the bandwagon but I think it will come back to bite them. There is truth to what you say. I just see the whole cons mvmt as basically being pretty unstable right now. By that I mean, there's a leadership vacuum (Beck?!?!) and a methods vacuum, and everybody's scrambling and jockeying to figure out how to create a consensus conservatism that will is politically effective. It will stabilize soon enough though … again, ugh.

I don't think the TP are quite as 'controlled' as you say in your comment, but I think it is all moving in that top-down direction. There are certainly enough experiments with how to harness the energy. Its fire though, all the pols are being forced to jump on the bandwagon but I think it will come back to bite them.

]]> By: John http://www.frumpgazette.com/2009/11/22/the-partys-over/comment-page-1/#comment-908 John Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:32:53 +0000 http://www.frumpgazette.com/?p=1339#comment-908 I feel sorry for you because you do not seem to be able to see beyond the end of your nose. Can you not see that our Great America is being made into a third world country via our slide into socialism? I feel sorry for you because you do not seem to be able to see beyond the end of your nose. Can you not see that our Great America is being made into a third world country via our slide into socialism?

]]> By: Frumpzilla http://www.frumpgazette.com/2009/11/22/the-partys-over/comment-page-1/#comment-905 Frumpzilla Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:08:06 +0000 http://www.frumpgazette.com/?p=1339#comment-905 p { margin: 0; }<br />Hey there, Bob, thanks for your thought-provoking comments (and sorry about the \"caffeine\" fumble - good one).<br />I agree with you that Obama is forced to moderate, and he continues with his odd little bipartisan gestures like the recent Dana Perino appointment, which could turn out to be tactically smart or plain old political expediency - time will tell.<br /><br /><br />I also agree with you that conservatives will be a force to be reckoned with in the future but I don't see the Tea Party crowd as the voice of that movement. I am far more concerned with the C Street gang and their Jesus Plus Nothing theocracy plans (read Jeff Sharlet). I think the TPs serve the purpose of keeping the conservative memes alive and creating a diversion, while the hard-core advance their agenda from the inside (eg,. Stupak-Pitts). At least it's not boring . . . p { margin: 0; }
Hey there, Bob, thanks for your thought-provoking comments (and sorry about the \”caffeine\” fumble – good one).
I agree with you that Obama is forced to moderate, and he continues with his odd little bipartisan gestures like the recent Dana Perino appointment, which could turn out to be tactically smart or plain old political expediency – time will tell.

I also agree with you that conservatives will be a force to be reckoned with in the future but I don't see the Tea Party crowd as the voice of that movement. I am far more concerned with the C Street gang and their Jesus Plus Nothing theocracy plans (read Jeff Sharlet). I think the TPs serve the purpose of keeping the conservative memes alive and creating a diversion, while the hard-core advance their agenda from the inside (eg,. Stupak-Pitts). At least it's not boring . . .

]]> By: Frumpzilla http://www.frumpgazette.com/2009/11/22/the-partys-over/comment-page-1/#comment-904 Frumpzilla Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:42:05 +0000 http://www.frumpgazette.com/?p=1339#comment-904 p { margin: 0; }<br />Hit a hot button, did I? p { margin: 0; }
Hit a hot button, did I?

]]> By: bob http://www.frumpgazette.com/2009/11/22/the-partys-over/comment-page-1/#comment-901 bob Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:13:28 +0000 http://www.frumpgazette.com/?p=1339#comment-901 You ruined a perfect opportunity to write that the "Tea Party is in need of some caffeine". :) Solid piece, and I'm sympathetic, but I'm not so convinced. I think it may fizzle a bit soon, and I think Obama is actually going to take a very moderate course for a few years after HC passes in order to fragment opposition, but I'm not sure the beginnings of a new conservative mvmt can be underestimated -- which is how I view the T Parties. This dispersed, networked organization, though sloppy and all over the place, is the seed of something else we'll see in a few years. Ugh. You ruined a perfect opportunity to write that the "Tea Party is in need of some caffeine". :)

Solid piece, and I'm sympathetic, but I'm not so convinced. I think it may fizzle a bit soon, and I think Obama is actually going to take a very moderate course for a few years after HC passes in order to fragment opposition, but I'm not sure the beginnings of a new conservative mvmt can be underestimated — which is how I view the T Parties. This dispersed, networked organization, though sloppy and all over the place, is the seed of something else we'll see in a few years. Ugh.

]]> By: DesertCactus http://www.frumpgazette.com/2009/11/22/the-partys-over/comment-page-1/#comment-900 DesertCactus Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:46:11 +0000 http://www.frumpgazette.com/?p=1339#comment-900 It's simple. Wait until 2010. Let's discuss the results of the election. Then we will move on to 2012. Afterwards, let's discuss the results of the election. Action will do the talking, not what you spew. No more to be said. Now it is all plans put into action. It's simple. Wait until 2010. Let's discuss the results of the election. Then we will move on to 2012. Afterwards, let's discuss the results of the election. Action will do the talking, not what you spew. No more to be said. Now it is all plans put into action.

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